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Jamie and Angle; do either of you know the author? thanks, cynthia
Sorry I don't, but it was on Beyond Beleif one episode.  Jamie     ,^ ^           / o.o          /    /         /__/ /
 
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It was called _Futility_ by Morgan Robertson, written in 1898. Mayn Clew Garnett wrote a similar story called The White Ghost of Disaster that was written before the disaster but printed in Popular Magazine in May (rumor had it that he dreamed it up while traveling on Titanic's sister ship the Olympian). There was also a poem called A Tryst by Celia Thaxter in 1887 that was also very similar. But Robertson's book is the really eerie one that came the closest to the real disaster. As there seems to be some interest in Titan and the Titanic, I thought that I would copy out the following. It comes from Incredible Coincidence, The Baffling World of Synchonicity by Alan Vaughan, published by Ballantine. One of the most celebrated fictional cases thought by parapsychologists to demonstrate unconscious foreknowledge is the 1898 novel by Morgan Robertson, 'The Wreck of the Titan; Or, Futility'. It has recently been reissued, together with Ian Stevenson's investigation, 'Paranormal Experiences Connected with the Sinking of the Titanic', with a foreword by William H. Tatum IV, Vice-President of the Titanic Historical Society.  The wreck of the Titanic in April 1912 corresponded in striking detail to Robertson's fictional Wreck of the Titan. As Tatum notes on the book jacket:  The details of Robertson's story paralleled the actual events of the greatest ocean disasters with uncanny, almost unbelievable, faithfulness. In his story Robertson pictures the Titan, big, fast, luxurious. She starts on her maiden trip in April. (The same month the Titanic went down.) She is out to make a record. Aboard her is the wit, beauty, and wealth of two worlds. She is speeding along the Northern lanes of Atlantic travel-an iceberg is sighted- there is a shock-thunder of buckling steel and the Titan is wounded to death. Even to the inadequate lifeboats this genius of the sea saw with the eyes of a seer. Dr. Ian Stevenson, Carlson Professor of Psychiatry of the Division of Parapsychology of the University of Virginia Medical School in Charlottesville, sums up the evidence, after noting that the fictional Titan was also believed unsinkable, by virtue of its watertight compartments                                 Titan   Titanic Number of persons aboard                3,000   2,207 Number of lifeboats                     24      20 Speed at impact with iceberg    25 knots        23 knots         Displacement tonnage of the liner       75,000  66,000   Length of the liner                     800 feet        882.5 feet Number of propellers            3       3  I think we can consider the correspondence either exact or impressive on the following ten points: name of ship; myth of unsinkability; collision with iceberg; sinking in the month of April; dispacement of tonnage; length of ship; speed of ship at impact; number of propellors; number of lifeboats; enormous loss of life. In his discussion, however, Ian Stevenson says that influence cannot be ruled out on a number of these points, though it is difficult to say where logical inference ends and psychic intuition begins. Ian
 
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It was called _Futility_ by Morgan Robertson, written in 1898. Mayn Clew Garnett wrote a similar story called The White Ghost of Disaster that was written before the disaster but printed in Popular Magazine in May (rumor had it that he dreamed it up while traveling on Titanic's sister ship the Olympian). There was also a poem called A Tryst by Celia Thaxter in 1887 that was also very similar. But Robertson's book is the really eerie one that came the closest to the real disaster. As there seems to be some interest in Titan and the Titanic, I thought that I would copy out the following. It comes from Incredible Coincidence, The Baffling World of Synchonicity by Alan Vaughan, published by Ballantine. One of the most celebrated fictional cases thought by parapsychologists to demonstrate unconscious foreknowledge is the 1898 novel by Morgan Robertson, 'The Wreck of the Titan; Or, Futility'. It has recently been reissued, together with Ian Stevenson's investigation, 'Paranormal Experiences Connected with the Sinking of the Titanic', with a foreword by William H. Tatum IV, Vice-President of the Titanic Historical Society. The wreck of the Titanic in April 1912 corresponded in striking detail to Robertson's fictional Wreck of the Titan. As Tatum notes on the book jacket: The details of Robertson's story paralleled the actual events of the greatest ocean disasters with uncanny, almost unbelievable, faithfulness. In his story Robertson pictures the Titan, big, fast, luxurious. She starts on her maiden trip in April. (The same month the Titanic went down.) She is out to make a record. Aboard her is the wit, beauty, and wealth of two worlds. She is speeding along the Northern lanes of Atlantic travel-an iceberg is sighted- there is a shock-thunder of buckling steel and the Titan is wounded to death. Even to the inadequate lifeboats this genius of the sea saw with the eyes of a seer. Dr. Ian Stevenson, Carlson Professor of Psychiatry of the Division of Parapsychology of the University of Virginia Medical School in Charlottesville, sums up the evidence, after noting that the fictional Titan was also believed unsinkable, by virtue of its watertight compartments                            Titan   Titanic Number of persons aboard            3,000   2,207 Number of lifeboats                 24      20 Speed at impact with iceberg        25 knots        23 knots         Displacement tonnage of the liner   75,000  66,000   Length of the liner                 800 feet        882.5 feet Number of propellers                3       3 I think we can consider the correspondence either exact or impressive on the following ten points: name of ship; myth of unsinkability; collision with iceberg; sinking in the month of April; dispacement of tonnage; length of ship; speed of ship at impact; number of propellors; number of lifeboats; enormous loss of life. In his discussion, however, Ian Stevenson says that influence cannot be ruled out on a number of these points, though it is difficult to say where logical inference ends and psychic intuition begins. Ian
 
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